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	<title>Comments on: The God Delusion = Judas Priest = D&amp;D = Suicide</title>
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		<title>By: J.S. Morales</title>
		<link>http://www.pinponpun.com/blog/2008/11/21/the-god-delusion-judas-priest-dd-suicide/comment-page-1/#comment-46</link>
		<dc:creator>J.S. Morales</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Nov 2008 20:21:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to disagree with some of the sentiments expressed here.  As a Christian who just graduated from SUNY Potsdam, about an hour north of JCC, I did not find it to be a friendly environment to diverse viewpoints, particularly Christian ones.  In one class, the Stanley Miller experiment was brought up and the teacher apparently didn&#039;t think it important to let us know that the experiment was discredited.  
As for the comment at the end, I don&#039;t agree with all of it.  I do feel the man was pointing out to the protests against such things as Prop 8 passing.  Why is it okay for them to do that but a Christian expresses their views and their labeled &quot;homophobic&quot; and a &quot;bigot&quot;?
I&#039;m deeply saddened by Jesse&#039;s story and I&#039;m sure there was more involved than simply the book.  However, it seems likely the book was a factor and the hostile environment of the college likely didn&#039;t help either.  
To end, I don&#039;t want to make colleges sound terrible.  I did meet some open-minded professors and some good friends who were open-minded.  However, too many people confuse open-mindedness with political correctness and an orthodoxy definitely appears to exist on many campuses.  What should be done?  That is a tough question.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to disagree with some of the sentiments expressed here.  As a Christian who just graduated from SUNY Potsdam, about an hour north of JCC, I did not find it to be a friendly environment to diverse viewpoints, particularly Christian ones.  In one class, the Stanley Miller experiment was brought up and the teacher apparently didn&#8217;t think it important to let us know that the experiment was discredited.<br />
As for the comment at the end, I don&#8217;t agree with all of it.  I do feel the man was pointing out to the protests against such things as Prop 8 passing.  Why is it okay for them to do that but a Christian expresses their views and their labeled &#8220;homophobic&#8221; and a &#8220;bigot&#8221;?<br />
I&#8217;m deeply saddened by Jesse&#8217;s story and I&#8217;m sure there was more involved than simply the book.  However, it seems likely the book was a factor and the hostile environment of the college likely didn&#8217;t help either.<br />
To end, I don&#8217;t want to make colleges sound terrible.  I did meet some open-minded professors and some good friends who were open-minded.  However, too many people confuse open-mindedness with political correctness and an orthodoxy definitely appears to exist on many campuses.  What should be done?  That is a tough question.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe the moralist</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe the moralist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Nov 2008 16:15:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have taken biology classes at JCC, and I have never witnessed a discussion in the classromm of the arguments in the ID/evolution debate. The definition of scientific method is taught, obviously, and requirements for formulating an hypothesis,collecting data, and moving to a theory are part of the syllabus. The emphasis is (or should be) on what distinguishes a scientific theory from speculation or &quot;faith,&quot; when the same rigorous testing and repeatability cannot apply. Whether or not  another student&#039;s reported challenge to read a book caused this tragedy,the educational process cannot be blamed. Exposure to differing points of view is the point of higher education; not banning discussion of them. I am saddened by this tragic event, and I wonder why the younger Kilgore couldn&#039;t approach his father about this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have taken biology classes at JCC, and I have never witnessed a discussion in the classromm of the arguments in the ID/evolution debate. The definition of scientific method is taught, obviously, and requirements for formulating an hypothesis,collecting data, and moving to a theory are part of the syllabus. The emphasis is (or should be) on what distinguishes a scientific theory from speculation or &#8220;faith,&#8221; when the same rigorous testing and repeatability cannot apply. Whether or not  another student&#8217;s reported challenge to read a book caused this tragedy,the educational process cannot be blamed. Exposure to differing points of view is the point of higher education; not banning discussion of them. I am saddened by this tragic event, and I wonder why the younger Kilgore couldn&#8217;t approach his father about this.</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
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		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Nov 2008 04:36:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It doesn&#039;t surprise me that a Christian parent might seek blame in an atheist book given, as you point out, the common misunderstanding of atheism and morality. Not only that, but it probably provides a means for his father to ignore or suppress other factors that were probably more directly related to his son&#039;s suicide.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It doesn&#8217;t surprise me that a Christian parent might seek blame in an atheist book given, as you point out, the common misunderstanding of atheism and morality. Not only that, but it probably provides a means for his father to ignore or suppress other factors that were probably more directly related to his son&#8217;s suicide.</p>
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